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“What did Chamberlain Do Wrong?”

May 21st, 2008 | By Churchills Parrot | Category: Featured
A recent spat on the Chris Matthew’s television program (“Dancing with the Stars” we believe?) has provided a splendid micro-study of the various bankruptcies which characterize the low-state of political debate currently at play in the last best hope of mankind. May God help us all.
First there is intellectual bankruptcy demonstrated in this instance by right-wing radio host Kevin Jacobs of KRLA in Los Angeles. Mr. Jacobs’ attack against Senator Barack Obama – full of boyish zeal and mischief – was, unfortunately, ill-timed and largely without substance. Far worse, the fact that he had no clue as to the particulars of Britain’s policy of Appeasement and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s role in it is virtually unforgivable. For a would-be Conservative to engage on the field of political battle without a firm grasp of historical fact is to deny himself perhaps his greatest weapon, and to provide the adversary an easy target by which to embolden himself and his cause.

Next we have literal bankruptcy represented by Mr. Mark Green, President of Air America. Spouting threadbare anti-Bushisms on cue, this blow-dried, spray-tanned leftbot contributed nothing to the debate save to provide real-time verification of why “progressive talk radio” is bereft of both listeners and funds.

Lastly, there is moral bankruptcy, demonstrated here by Mr. Matthews himself. Though he knows better, Mr. Matthews opted to forsake the truth in favor of savaging his guest right-wing dupe for committing the sin of not knowing his history; understandable and entertaining, yes, but highly unfortunate in this particular debate.

“What did Chamberlain do wrong,” Mr. Matthews repeatedly demanded of Mr. Jacobs. In terms of the particulars, Mr. Jacobs hadn’t a clue.

Finally an exasperated and indignant Matthews condescended to explain. “There is a difference between talking with the enemy and appeasing,” he instructed. “What Neville Chamberlain did wrong – most people would say – is not talking to Hitler but giving him half of Czechoslovakia in 1938. That’s what he did wrong!”

In our view this is rather like saying, “What Mrs. Fleebswottle did wrong was not having an affair with the milkman, but getting pregnant by him.” Alas the moral code of six-year-olds: it’s only wrong if you get caught. Chamberlain got caught.

In Munich in 1938, Neville Chamberlain and Adolph Hitler were talking quite a bit. In those talks the two of them complimented one another’s mustache, exchanged tips on winterizing their gardens, and gave away half of Czechoslovakia to the Nazi regime. In the now infamous Munich Agreement, Hitler promised - honest-injun, crossed his heart and hoped to die - that he would take only what was agreed to and nothing more. Hitler lied. Chamberlain and the entire civilized world were shocked.

Well not the entire civilized world. Sir Winston Churchill for one was not. He had been passionately warning about Hitler since 1933. He was not alone in this. Many were able to read Hitler like a book. In fact, many had. It was not exactly an act of supernatural prophecy to see that Adolf Hitler was a deranged, anti-Semitic, power-mad, war-monger who must be stopped - not talked to, not negotiated with, not appeased - but stopped by whatever means available.

And yet, Neville Chamberlain insisted on talking . It was via this talking that he got stung and landed Britain, and the world, in the weakest possible position.

But what if Hitler hadn’t lied in Munich? What if he kept his word, consumed only Czech Sudetenland, and left the rest of the world alone. Would Mr. Matthew’s have said Neville Chamberlain did anything wrong then? No. Thus giving away half of Czechoslovakia is not really what Chamberlain did wrong; taking Hitler at his word is what Neville Chamberlain did wrong.

“There is a difference between talking with the enemy and appeasing,” insists Mr. Matthews. “Appeasement is giving away things to the enemy.” What Mr. Matthews claims not to be able to see here is that talking with the enemy IS giving away things to the enemy. What did Chamberlain give to Hitler? He gave him the Prime Minister of Britain’s time, attention, prestige, and trust. Quite a lot some would say, and at quite a cost. THAT is what Mr. Chamberlain did wrong – knowingly or unknowingly – and it is a sin one can only commit by talking, even if said talk is ostensibly in the name of peace. (Side note - we are told Mrs. Fleebswottle claims she only did what she did to afford milk for her children. Also she really did love the milk man and besides, he promised her he was sterile. The bastard!)

There are some interactions one ought know better than to engage in; this is the lesson of 1938 Mr. Bush spoke of before the Knesset last week: the dire importance of resisting the “false comfort of appeasement.”

As regards talking with this latest breed of fascists – Iran/Hizzballah, Hamas, Al Qaeda, Syria et al - presuming these talks extend beyond mustaches and gardening, how exactly does one talk with bodies whose publically declared mission statement is the destruction of Israel and the establishment of a worldwide Islamic Caliphate?

Furthermore, there is the not insignificant issue of Taqiyya, the Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Ought President Obama, or McCain, or Clinton, or … yes even Kucinich give the prestige, time, attention, and trust of the President of the United States to self-proclaimed enemies of Western values who are compelled by their “faith” to deceive unbelievers? And what is there really to talk about? A joint venture to airlift all Israeli Jews to Fort Lauderdale? The incorporation of Sharia law into the United States Constitution? Economic incentives for “green oil drilling” in Saudi Arabia?

Some things are non-negotiable and thus talking is to no avail. The existence of Israel, human rights for all, the sovereignty of peaceful and responsible nations – these things are non-negotiable, particularly with enemies who seek to take them away. That is, after all, why we regard them as “enemies.”

Cheers,

Charlie

P.S.

In humorous punctuation to this entire scene - in his final dismissal of Mr. Jacobs, Mr. Matthews asks, “Wasn’t the U.S.S. Cole under Bush? I mean I don’t know what you’re talking about here” He then concludes in radiant self-righteousness, “Kevin, when you’re going to make a direct historical reference, get it straight.” Here, here Mr. Matthews!



Hitler’s Heirs

Mar 24th, 2008 | By E.D. Kain | Category: Foreign Affairs

Hizbullah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, speaking via satellite to a crowd gathered in Beirut asked an interesting question (and provided an even more interesting answer):

Can Israel disappear? A thousand times, yes.

Now, it’s true that the Jewish people have been cast from their homeland a few times, so perhaps the seeming discrepancy in Nasrallah’s logic isn’t so off-kilter after all. A thousand times, though?

The content of his speech, however, remains disgusting and fanatical no matter how you look at it. Nasrallah has shown himself to be little more than Iranian President Ahmadinejad’s mouthpiece and finger-puppet.

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The two men certainly have their similarities. Nasrallah has said of the Jewish people:

If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide. (Daily Star, Oct. 23, 2002)

and

If we searched the entire world for a person more cowardly, despicable, weak and feeble in psyche, mind, ideology and religion, we would not find anyone like the Jew. Notice, I do not say the Israeli. (New Yorker, Oct. 14, 2002)

Ahmadinejad’s rhetoric is less direct, but equally as virulent and reproachful. Of the Holocaust he has said that:

they have concocted a myth of deprivation and innocence for the Jews of Europe. They use this pretext of the innocence of Jews and the suffering of some Jews during the Second World War. Riding on the crest of a wave of anti-Jewish sentiments, they have laid the foundations for the Zionist regime.

Both of these cowards are heroes to many in the Islamic world. This is the sad state of affairs that the Muslim world faces. Their leaders are not only ignorant, they propagate terror, murder and genocide. Not content to wield power over the rest of the Middle-East, they must possess the tiny Jewish homeland as well. Having only the two Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina, not to mention the countless other Islamic sites that dot the region, they must also control Jerusalem, the historically Jewish Holy City. Islam is a much younger religion than Judaism, and any claims that religion makes to Jerusalem can in no way supercede the Jews’ claims.

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For some reason, the Arabs feel they have more of a right to the Jewish homeland than the Jews themselves. This has nothing to do with Zionist tyranny or fascism as the Islamists and sympathizers call it. Muslims enjoyed more freedom and more prosperity under a Jewish State than under any of their oppressive regimes like Saudi Arabia or Syria.

No, this is Antisemitism and Islamism combined. Islamism is a factor all over the Middle-East. Lebanon, which is heavily populated with Christians, is constantly under Syria’s control, with hired thugs like Nasrallah leading the continued campaign of fear and control. Christians, however, make much less appealing targets than Jews. Antisemitism is far more prevalent, and the concept of Zionism allows men like Ahmadinejad free reign to spew their hatred without actually saying that they hate Jews. One word replaces the other.

No, if Israel were a Christian nation the Arab governments would still try to destroy it–however they would meet with much stiffer world resistance from the rest of the world. Fortunately for Iran, Syria and the terrorists, they have the Jews to target instead, and two thousand years of worldwide animosity toward a people whose homeland was wrenched from them so long ago. Unfortunately for these States and the terrorists they sponsor–they sponsor terrorists because their attempts at actually attacking Israel militarily have been constant embarrassments–Israel has proved far more resilient than they hoped. The Israelis have turned out to be much stronger and much more strong-willed than the Arabs thought.

“The Zionists are the true manifestation of Satan” the Iranian President has told the world. He and his puppet, Nasrallah, and the terrorists they control are sure to fight Israel to the death (though surely not their own death, nor even the death of Iranians–they use pawns and so-called Palestinians to do their dirty work). There is no peace for such men. In another speech, Ahmadinejad said:

Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented

Are these the words of a man seeking peace? No, these are the words of a man seeking a cease-fire and a bit of breathing room to build up arms in Gaza and the West Bank. After all, if the end goal is the “elimination of the Zionist regime” aka Israel, then why should he want a cease-fire?

To re-arm and re-deploy terrorists, plain and simple.

It’s time the Israeli government, and the American government, woke up to the scary reality of the enemy. These are Hitler’s heirs, bent on the eventual destruction of Israel, and the elimination of the Jews. “If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide” Nasrallah said. And he means it.

The question is, will we let him get his wish, or will we stop the half-measures and ill-named “peace talks” and move on to a stronger policy? Will we allow the terrorism and rocket-fire to continue, broken only during “cease-fires” that allow the enemy to gather their strength or will we move toward a policy of overwhelming and nonnegotiable strength?

Sometimes the only way to save life and preserve the peace is to defeat the enemy once and for all, and leave them no room to continue their killing. Not through talks with liars like the men who lead Hamas. Only when the killing stops and the terrorists are broken will retaliation no longer be necessary. Only then can peace be achieved.